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FV 12: GTM Efficiency, Signal-Based Analytics & Demand Creation | Chris Walker @Refine_labs

Chris Walker talks about the challenges and strategies for SaaS companies in today’s market. He reveals that private SaaS companies face extended CAC payback periods (48-60 months) due to slowing growth, while public SaaS companies have nearly doubled their sales and marketing spend in the past two and a half years. 

Chris focuses on smart cost-cutting, efficient marketing investments, and bridging the gap between finance and go-to-market teams. He points out the importance of  signal-based analytics, AI’s potential in marketing, and the power of dark social content. With some pro tips on live shows, targeted account lists, and product-focused webinars, Chris provides efficient strategies for building demand, improving CAC, and accelerating company growth.

Takeaways:

  • Private SaaS CAC challenges: Slowing growth pushes payback periods to 48-60 months, demanding smarter spending.
  • Efficient marketing matters: Focus on ROI with signal-based analytics and tailored demand-generation strategies.
  • Leverage live shows/podcasts: Engage target customers, build trust, and gather valuable feedback.
  • Shift B2B advertising: Educate customers on why they need your product to drive interest and demand.
  • Track dark social’s impact: Self-reported attribution is key for understanding content ROI.
  • AI and signal analytics: Emerging tools can optimize outbound sales and boost marketing effectiveness.
  • Passetto’s focus: Practical strategies to enhance enterprise value and accelerate growth.‍

TIMESTAMPS:

00:00 CAC Payback Period in Public & Private SaaS Companies

04:21 Sales & Digital Marketing Budget Allocation

10:15 How B2B Buying Works Today

14:30 The State of Signal-Based Analytics

21:57 Building Analytics from Top-Level Business Metrics

26:15 How to Properly Do & Measure Demand Creation

40:10 Key Levers that Grew Refine Labs to +$10M ARR

44:38 Current Signal-Based SaaS & Services Landscape

50:48 Passetto as a Consulting Firm, Not a SaaS Company

51:55 AI Optimizing Outbound Cadences

54:33 The Bowtie Framework and the Future of GTM Tech

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